How Can Jesus Be God and Die, When God is Immortal.?
Christians wrote about the death of God then about the life of him- Michael Tsarion
Well I leave the philosophical implications to others. The one thing that bothers me the most about this myth. John 3:16 the xtians love to quote–yet–if one knows that death is not permanent and clearly is just a tiny amount of time in the eternity these mythical deitys had existed–then–there is no sacrafice whatsoever–it was totally without meaning with respect to the word sacrafice. Act in a informative play might be okay–the only true sacrafice would have been if the mythical deitys son was put to death and stayed dead–that would have meant something. There is no sacrafice involved in a no-lose situation. Therefore the word love in john 3:16 means nothing as well–he could have loved, hated, or been ambivalent–and as there was no loss–no sacrafice–as the whole thing was a no lose situation–anything said would have worked just as well. It’s like aying I love you and I’ll give you a ring–but it won’t cost me anything at all. Doesn’t particularly show someone cares about you enough to actually work to give you something or sacrafice to give you something. A very large sham is my opinion
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because he was in a human body. thats why he died.
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Christian paradox #3,449.
The apologetic answer to this is that Jesus died as a man, but lives on as a God. Of course, if Jesus came back to life then he didn’t really die, did he? Where’s the great sacrifice in a 3-day coma?
Notice primoa1970’s answer. Jesus is 100% human and a 100% God. That equals %200 percent. Which is why delusional Christians need to be kept out of the educational system.
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JESUS IS NOT GOD why the thumbs down?
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exactly
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Christ was 100% human & 100% God.
God put on flesh for us so that we could be redeemed from sin.
It’s called, the sacrificial atonement.
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Christ was man &God, God didnt die. Christ, the man died
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Because God is a Spirit, and Jesus’ Spirit (what made Him God) did not die, only His Body (that made him Human)
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When he died, he went straight to hell and purgatory to release people
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Jesus conquered death so that we may live if we just believe in Him.
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He was always a spirit and he had a body. The body died.
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He can do anything.. it was hjust for awhile.
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Jesus isn’t God. He is God’s Son. God is not man.
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Jesus was executed by the Roman Colonial government for heresy. Not only did he claim to be God, he had a, possibly legitimate, claim to the throne of Israel, and he promoted peaceful resistance to Imperialist rule, refuting the Torah’s militancy. This last was why the priests among his own people were so pi$$ed at him.
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Well, nothing in religion makes sense, and this is no exception.
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Immortal people can be KILLED, but they can’t die of natural causes
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Thats why He became a human and took the sins of the whole world upon Him. The wages of sin is death (physically, spiritually). That’s why there’s death in the world (physical death), and thats why there’s eternal hell (spiritual death).
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because Jesus was not God. yes, God sent him to this earth. and Jesus is a advanced soul, but thats it.
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Jesus was 100% human, not a god. Therefore when he died, that was it for him on earth, sorry folks. Only G-d is the one who cannot die.
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Actually…God didn’t die…the human body of Jesus (not God) was destroyed in a most inhumane fashion…and in case you’re wondering again God didn’t do it…
FYI…Michael Tsarion is a known crackpot…you should be more careful of whom you quote…
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even if Jesus did not die (he was raised to heaven) he is still a Prophet from God "Allah".
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Islam
Just more Christian confusion or "magic". They always expect to have their cake while eating it.
Like how could he be three things sometimes and one think other times? Or how could he be the son-of-god, god, and the holy ghost, die, go to his father, and then come back only to disappear?
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Therein lays the miracle of Jesus’ dual nature:
Fully God and Fully man.
As a human, born to a woman, He was mortal.
As God, He remains immortal.
God in His mercy shows us that immortality is possible, therefore we have hope for a life in God.
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Jesus was a mortal. He had the Holy Spirit within him. and the Holy Spirit still lives on today. in my heart, and the hearts of other believers.
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His spirit became flesh and sorry as long as theres entropy theres death and decay. and look up entropy in the Bible to answer the next question Im sure your going to ask about what is entropy lol
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Jesus is the second member of the Holy Trinity of God. He yielded His life to death – no one was able to take it from Him – thus the immortal made Himself temporarily mortal like us…
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Bingo….you get a prize too.
Someone immortal can be neither killed or hurt. Someone immortal can’t die….hence if Jesus was the immortal incorruptable God, he could not have died as a ransom for sins because it is impossible.
Jesus was exalted over the angels when his Father resurrected him to heaven and finally gave him immortality for his faithfulness. Hebrews 1, 1 Timothy 6:16….he was not immortal in his life in heaven before living on earth, nor in his human life.
Nor is the human (soul) immortal. Ezek. 18:4, 20-24.
Debbie
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God is a metaphor that implies inner being that is reality and yes that reality is you,your immortal soul/self.the God aspect of Jesus does live on equally as immortal as you will
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Well I leave the philosophical implications to others. The one thing that bothers me the most about this myth. John 3:16 the xtians love to quote–yet–if one knows that death is not permanent and clearly is just a tiny amount of time in the eternity these mythical deitys had existed–then–there is no sacrafice whatsoever–it was totally without meaning with respect to the word sacrafice. Act in a informative play might be okay–the only true sacrafice would have been if the mythical deitys son was put to death and stayed dead–that would have meant something. There is no sacrafice involved in a no-lose situation. Therefore the word love in john 3:16 means nothing as well–he could have loved, hated, or been ambivalent–and as there was no loss–no sacrafice–as the whole thing was a no lose situation–anything said would have worked just as well. It’s like aying I love you and I’ll give you a ring–but it won’t cost me anything at all. Doesn’t particularly show someone cares about you enough to actually work to give you something or sacrafice to give you something. A very large sham is my opinion
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Jesus came down from his throne to be a sacrifice,He is risen remember(not dead).
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i think you are muslim, but you cool with me.
God send Jesus to mary to be pregent so that the spirit go in human flesh.
when Jesus born he got spirit in him and his flesh at the same time.
but remember Jesus was with God before he born.
this is why he must do to save people from sin then he died on cross .
it the way it is.
when he died , but he spirit start work for people to be saved and people who are not saved then he know which one is saved or not.
his flesh was suppose to be teach us because if he doing his spirit we won’t see it. that why he has to use the flesh so that we can see him and hear him.
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That is easy. They are 2 separate persons. Not a Trinity.
(John 3:16) . . .“For God loved the world so much that he gave his only-begotten Son, in order that everyone exercising faith in him might not be destroyed but have everlasting life.
" Only-begotten son" Only direct creation by God. all other things were done with Jesus’ help.
other scripture using this phase
(Luke 7:12) . . .As he got near the gate of the city, why, look! there was a dead man being carried out, the only-begotten son of his mother. Besides, she was a widow. A considerable crowd from the city was also with her. . .
(John 1:18) . . .No man has seen God at any time; the only-begotten god who is in the bosom [position] with the Father is the one that has explained him.
also if Jesus is god. how come he was seen on earth, if no one has seen God.
The Trinity on it start in Babylon 3000 years ago. A PAGAN NATION OF FALSE GODS so who are you going to follow?
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Jesus is:
1.the light of God ….The body
2.Soul of God…….God himself
3.The son of God…..The holy Ghost.
Jesus is Lord and immortal. His body was created from the WORD of GOD not human sperm or egg. His body is immortal.
He did not die on the cross he was risen to the heavens and will return.
Lord does not have to die for our sins he is Lord and Jesus forgives us.
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Jesus was God incarnate ( God in the flesh) the flesh is not immortal. Those who have the faith and come to believe it will and those who do not will make fun of it and of those who believe.
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Can God do anything? Yes! God BECAME a man, in the flesh (John 1:1) However still being God, He is THREE in one persons. God the Father, Holy Spirit, Son ( 1 John 5:8)
Father, water, blood….
The only way for us to be redeemed was through Christ, because he had no sin. And we all have sin. Jesus is God that is why he had no sin.
Colossians 2:9
For in him the whole fullness of deity dwells bodily,
It is truly amazing what the Lord has done for us- through Jesus Christ. There is no greater love than that! And Jesus is ALIVE! He defeated death! Only God can defeat death! And when we believe in Him, and repent of sin, we too pass from death to life~ Eternal life! (Romans 3:23, Romans 6:23, Romans 5:8-9, Romans 10)
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Yep! it’s pretty mysterious. But then, a divine mystery would HAVE to be mysterious, wouldn’t it?
This problem shows up every time someone thinks that the story can be explained in its entirety, and all questions answered. But if God is in fact superior to us (more knowing, more understanding, more powerful) there is no reason for that to be the case.
The orthodox Christian teaching is that Jesus is, in fact, God, existed before the creation and participated in it, and exists eternally. However, He also became a human being and lived a human existence, one result of which is He got a lot of other people upset and they had Him killed. He was resurrected and ascended into heaven, concluding that human life which was interrupted but not finally terminated by His death. (We also believe that we will also be resurrected after death.)
He also went around praying to God as His Father ("Daddy" would be an even better translation of the word he used) and teaching other people to do so. This makes the understanding of God even more complicated; eventually the doctrine of the Trinity (the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost whom Jesus promised after His resurrection would come to his followers) was constructed to sort it out, and provide what explanation could be managed.
It took a few centuries and some major contention over the details to develp the explanation that far, and a fellow religious studies student once remarked to me that every time he thought he had fully understood it, he found he had simply reinvented another old heresy!
But the purpose of belief is not to claim complete comprehension; it’s to come up with enough understanding to guide your choices when you don’t really have enough proven knowledge to go on.
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I recommend "The Mind of the Maker," by Dorothy Sayers, as a very good study of the doctrine of the Trinity by means of an analogy to the creative process. That approach is very helpful.
The Trinity is and has always existed even before creation. God the Son, as the second person of the trinity, assumed real human nature in the form of Jesus. Therefore, Jesus is BOTH God and man. His human nature is inferior to God and was subject to death. However, He did not lose His equal share in the Divinity while in the flesh. Only His human body died but was resurrected by His ever living Divine Nature. Although Jesus is, by Himself, God, He is not God all by Himself to the exclusion of the other two persons.
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Jesus said he allows us to kill his flesh and then he raises it. He is still alive. God said God is Spirit. The Spirit is not flesh but can wear the flesh.
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Only his flesh died …and then he raised it up out of the grave to give us all hope.
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