What’s the Mythicist Position?
From: http://freethoughtnation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=2160
The Mythicist Position:
"Mythicism represents the perspective that many gods, goddesses and other heroes and legendary figures said to possess extraordinary and/or supernatural attributes are not "real people" but are in fact mythological characters. Along with this view comes the recognition that many of these figures personify or symbolize natural phenomena, such as the sun, moon, stars, planets, constellations, etc., constituting what is called "astrotheology." As a major example of the mythicist position, various biblical characters such as Adam and Eve, Satan, Noah, Abraham, Moses, Joshua, King David, Solomon & Jesus Christ, among other figures, in reality represent mythological characters along the same lines as the Egyptian, Sumerian, Phoenician, Indian, Greek, Roman and other godmen, who are all presently accepted as myths, rather than historical figures."
Lots of verbiage, but it seems that you are asking if characters mentioned in Christianity are derived from characters in earlier religions. Of course, the main tenets and stories of Christianity are obviously copied from different religions that preceded it. All religions are derivative.
Should former high ranking FBI agent Ted Gunderson’s statements about Satanic cults continue to be dismissed?
This is an old guy now — he was in more than a responsible position for the federal government the FBI
He has had a lot to say about Satanic cults inside the US operating in connection to some pretty high ranking persons and orginizations
No matter how you feel about his accusations they are extremely serious and nightmarish
Should former high ranking FBI agent Ted Gunderson’s statements about Satanic cults continue to be dismissed?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6aM2qH-NIM
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Ted Gunderson was born in Colorado Springs. He graduated from the University of Nebraska in 1950. Gunderson entered the Federal Bureau of Investigation in December 1951. He served in Mobile, Knoxville, New York City, and Albuquerque offices. He held posts as a Assistant Special Agent-in-Charge in New Haven and Philadelphia; and as Chief Inspector, and Special Agent-in-Charge of the Memphis and Dallas divisions. In 1977, Gunderson took his last position as Senior Special Agent-in-Charge of the Los Angeles division, and retired in March 1979. Gunderson was honored as the Outstanding Law Enforcement Officer in America, by the AFL-CIO Metal Trade Counsel Los Angeles, CA in 1977
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Gunderson
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Isaac Newton was Member of any secret societies?
Isaac Newton has often been associated with various secret societies and fraternal orders throughout history. Due to the secretive nature of such organizations, lack of supportive publicized material, and dubious motives for claiming Newton’s participation in these groups, it is difficult to establish his actual membership in any specific organization.
Or Perhaps the movement which most influenced Isaac Newton was Rosicrucianism.
Or It has been claimed that Newton was a Grand Master of the mythical and exhaustively debunked Priory of Sion.
Yes, but its still a secret! Seriously!
Isaac Newton has often been associated with various secret societies and fraternal orders throughout history. Due to the secretive nature of such organizations, lack of supportive publicized material, and dubious motives for claiming Newton’s participation in these groups, it is difficult to establish his actual membership in any specific organization.
Regardless of his own membership status, Newton was a known associate of many individuals who themselves have often been labeled as members of various esoteric groups. It is unclear if these associations were a result of being a well established and prominently publicized scholar, an early member and sitting President of The Royal Society (1703–1727), a prominent figure of State and Master of the Mint, a recognized Knight, or if Newton actually sought active membership within these esoteric organizations himself. Considering the nature and legality of alchemical practices during his lifetime, as well as his possession of various materials and manuscripts pertaining to alchemical research, Newton may very well have been a member of a group of like minded thinkers and colleagues. The organized level of this group (if in fact any existed), the level of their secrecy, as well as the depth of Newton’s involvement within them, remains unclear.
Though Newton was largely considered a reclusive personality and not prone to socializing, during his lifetime being a member of "Societies" or "Clubs" was a very popular form of interpersonal networking. Considering his esteemed social status, it is probable that Newton would have had a least some contact with such groups at various levels. He was most certainly a member of The Royal Society of London for the Improvement of Natural Knowledge and the Spalding Gentlemen’s Society, however, these are considered learned societies, not esoteric societies. Newton’s membership status within any particular secret society remains verifiably allusive and largely speculative, however, it still lends itself to popular sensationalism.
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How far along is New Zealand in the New World Order and Police state compared to America?
In America, there is very little freedom left, and is very advanced in the so called New World Order, turning the citizens into slaves. Look at how BP is arresting folks for taking pictures of the Gulf Disaster for instance. How far along is New Zealand in the New World Order compared to America and how does it treat its citizens, especially free speech. Thanks
I have to disagree with the person above me.
Firstly, NZers think they have a right to obtain secret information. Now I don’t know what you think, but how well do you think the CIA would function if it had to tell everyone its secrets? For example, NZ tried to setup a secret force to deal with terrorism threats to the Rugby World Cup. How ever under the "official information act" one news published this, told everyone, and the agency is basically useless.
Some where in NZ’s history people decided that name suppression was in fact unfair to the society. This is due to a fairly low level of IQ – name suppression is to protect the identity of certain humans until they have been found guilty of their actual crime.
Imagine being posted on the news as a paedophile, only to find after a court case, the court actually ruled you didn’t do anything wrong and were falsely arrested by the police. You would never get your rep back.
I believe the above post is from a fairly extremist person. Their are a couple of angry NZers who run blogs like his/hers. NZ has been consistently voted one of the least corrupt, peaceful and safe countries in the world.
Why does the losing side in politics always become obsessed with conspiracy theories?
During Bush’s presidency, Liberals could often be seen wearing a tinfoil hat screaming about fascist lizard people and the "truth" behind 9/11. Now it’s the conservatives flipping out about "The New World Order" and the Illuminati. Ever since the Arizona law, I’ve been reading illegals writing about "A New World Order" and other assorted conspiracy theories. Why is this?
Because neither side (with their certain bias) can believe it’s both sides. Here it is:
The New World Order (Phase 1) has been here since 1913 when the Illuminati Banksters created the Federal Reserve, The Creature from Jekyll Island.
Since then, government has issued bonds (UNsecured notes of obligations) and the Fed has simply written the government a check and printed the money. Government puts us in debt without the debt being funded by taxes.
Through this and fractional reserve lending, the money supply increases and you and I pay for it through inflation. It’s a hidden tax and the common man gets assessed by the richest people in the world.
The Illuminati Banksters collect the interest from the debt and their banks gets rich off the PRIVATE CARTEL, the Federal Reserve. They loved the $5 Trillion to $50 Trillion increase in debt under Geo Bush. They have enjoyed, and directly benefited from the BAILOUT of [unknown] Trillions. They will enjoy the health care debt of Obama.
The New World Order will be (continues to be) Modern-day Feudalism where the rich assess the poor.
The NEXT STEP will be for OUR Federal Reserve to Bailout the EURO.
Watch out for that! That has the potential of causing an enormous amount of chaos and unrest that could lead to martial law.
Want to get rid of them once and for all? Rid the Fed and stop the game-rigging.
Prescott Bush = Skull & Bones = Illuminati
Geo HW Bush = Skull & Bones = Illuminati
Jimmy Carter = Trilateral commission = Illuminati
FDR = Illminati Bankster = Illuminati
Geo Bush = Skull & Bones = Illuminati
Dick Cheney = CFR = Illuminati
Zbigniew Brzezinski = bad news
Clinton = Rhodes scholar = Illuminati
the list goes on and on
What was the terms concerning Jesse Ventura’s lawsuit against WCW?
It seems that any match that includes Ventura as commentator must be removed from all future video releases, why?
then explain why Ventura’s voice has been edited out of every WWE DVD produced…
You don’t know what you are talking about. World Wrestling Entertainment pays residuals to Jesse the Body Ventura every month. I subscribe to WWE Classics on Demand and in any given week. I can watch footage of Jesse Ventura calling match for the WW and WCW. I also can see matches of him wrestling for both the AWA and the WWF. World Wrestlng Entertainment pays Jesse residuals for the use of matches he is wrestling in and matches for which his is part of the broadcast team and he broadcast on a lot of wrestling programs in the 1980′s and 1990′s.
Could the crucifixion be thought of as a metaphor?
Jordan Maxwell (alternate theorist) said that ‘Spiritual and Intellectual Enlightenment always dies between two thieves: regret from the past and fear for the future"-thus the two thieves and the dying in the crucifixion. And it would also follow that instead of a man, Jesus would be a metaphor for the sun or ‘spiritual and intellectual enlightenment’. When we’re enlightened it ‘dawns’ on us’, like the dawn from the sun’s rays awakening us from darkness and obscurity. In that regard, Jesus being God’s ‘son’ or ‘sun’, actually makes a bit of sense.
The twelve disciples representing the 12 signs of the zodiac makes sense as well. The 12 signs of the zodiac revolve around a circle, or the sun.
It’s usually thought of as the 12 signs of the zodiac. Leo is even represented with the others here http://www.solarnavigator.net/history/astrology/astrology_images/zodiac_picture_images.jpg
And for Christians, this alternate take on it isn’t twisting anything. It doesn’t cast a past event in a negative light. Spiritual and intellectual enlightenment is a good thing.
Why not. Sounds pretty good, as you have put it to us.
Is author/filmmaker David Icke a complete loon, or perhaps?
one of the greatest minds of our time?
I really don’t know. At times, he is way out there… Decide for yourselves. …
http://www.davidicke.com/index.php/
Pax – C
how do you escape from the prison planet ?
I’m still there…but I have plans for the future…futuristic plans…
GAGA FOREVER♥
Is Alex Jones’s (infowars.com) wife Jewish? Is he tied up with Zionists?
I’ve read A. Jones has a Jewish wife and he’s not all that credible, because he’s working for the jew owned media. What do you know?
I believe she is a Christian, not Jewish. I read somewhere that her family background is Christian as well — they are Texas ranchers or something?? But even if she was a Jew, it would not bother me unless she was a Zionist.
